Present: Group I - Angie Rathmel, Chantel Guidry, Heather Krasovec, Pamela Bonham, Verna Froese, Mike Rusche, Jesse Bryson, Kurt Blythe, Bob Marvin; Group II - Al Mauler, Kevin Fussell; Group III - Brenda Owens, Channette Kirby, Bayliss Harsh, Denise Swartz, Barb Woodruff, Sue Hewitt, Janet Revenew, Helen Dee; Group IV - Jim Smith, Larry Hopkins, Jan Altenbernd, Mary Ann Baker

Pros of "Alternative to Civil Service" Proposal
Monies awarded for longevity will be added to the base salary. In addition, awards will increase in amount from 40-50 and be given sooner in an employee's service, after 5 yrs., instead of 10.

There is a chance that more employment levels will be added to our classification system.

Pay will be determined by people who know us.

More flexibility will exist in defining job descriptions

Ola and Lindy project trust. Also, the Classified Senators on the planning committee will protect Classified interests to the best of their abilities.

Chancellor speaks for us with more strength if we are KU employees. Conversely, the Legislature doesn't care about us in our current incarnation.

The potential for an upside is good, since things "can't get any worse."

There seems to be support for a change at the Regents and the Legislature.

Cons to "Alternative to Civil Service" Proposal
Flexibility in job descriptions may result in inequalities.

Much depends on supervisors, who may show favoritism.

Current supervisory training and evaluation forms do not support this system.

Power will be concentrated in a few; the rest of us will be dependent on their good will.

The appeal process is placed in the hands of management.

Statutory protections might go away.

We will lose any protection from the chancellor, which may result in privatization.

Tuition enhancement money is exhausted in 3 years.

Unlikely to preserve "bumping."

Med Center change is misleading because Med Center is privatized.

No case studies available to show possible end result.

Unknown to what extent staff will be allowed to provide input on the final plan.

Administration may change anything in the future.

National bill may be passed limiting tuition increases.

The success of individuals is very dependent on evaluations.
Less control over daily lives.